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	<title>Comments on: Utah Highway Patrol taser guy for speeding violation</title>
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		<title>By: Jonny</title>
		<link>http://theutubeblog.com/2007/11/22/utah-highway-patrol-taser-guy-for-speeding-violation/#comment-87279</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 00:26:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ditto....As most people who are pulled over and felt they did not do what said, they react as if the cop has judged them. To argue your point with some cops does work if you can prove your point in a short moment. Example: standing under a Speed limit sign, that shows your facts. Rarely do you have such a chance. The point is the arguments belong in court where you are given a more even handed chance to make your case. I think this cop knows that law and did not take time to explain to this guy: both why he had to sign the ticket and that signing does not prove you are guilty at all. And second why the cop needs to arrest someone who doesnt sign a ticket as they have no other way to make sure this individual does go to court to prove his case or lose it and pay a fine. 
 It is about laws we have to follow to have a civil society. But good cops take time to explain that signing the ticket is merely to promise to take your case to court to win or lose, not in any way saying you are guilty. I think that is what cops who view this should learn. This cop should have given the guy one more chance to sign when he got out of the car.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ditto&#8230;.As most people who are pulled over and felt they did not do what said, they react as if the cop has judged them. To argue your point with some cops does work if you can prove your point in a short moment. Example: standing under a Speed limit sign, that shows your facts. Rarely do you have such a chance. The point is the arguments belong in court where you are given a more even handed chance to make your case. I think this cop knows that law and did not take time to explain to this guy: both why he had to sign the ticket and that signing does not prove you are guilty at all. And second why the cop needs to arrest someone who doesnt sign a ticket as they have no other way to make sure this individual does go to court to prove his case or lose it and pay a fine.<br />
 It is about laws we have to follow to have a civil society. But good cops take time to explain that signing the ticket is merely to promise to take your case to court to win or lose, not in any way saying you are guilty. I think that is what cops who view this should learn. This cop should have given the guy one more chance to sign when he got out of the car.</p>
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		<title>By: DT</title>
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		<dc:creator>DT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 22:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Police officers stand between us, the civilized public, and the criminals. &lt;/i&gt;

But what happens when the police are the criminals?

Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. We are at a point in this nation where cops have nearly absolute power. And we wonder why there&#039;s so much corruption.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Police officers stand between us, the civilized public, and the criminals. </i></p>
<p>But what happens when the police are the criminals?</p>
<p>Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. We are at a point in this nation where cops have nearly absolute power. And we wonder why there&#8217;s so much corruption.</p>
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		<title>By: DT</title>
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		<dc:creator>DT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 22:55:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cops are bullies. The job attracts bullies. The screening process selects bullies. And the training encourages bullies. Every cop I&#039;ve known or had any experience with has been nothing but a low IQ school yard bully. Without exception. Occasionally I will see a video that makes me think &quot;there&#039;s a decent cop with some intelligence.&quot; But 90% of the time I just see another low brow, caveman bully.

The problem is that the American people are sheep. We curse and scream and cry and yell, but in the end we don&#039;t do anything to actually make cops pay for their actions. For being bullies.

Our founders gave us the right to bear arms knowing that respect comes with an equilibrium of power. And that government would only respect the people if the people had power against the government. Our power has been suppressed, regulated, stripped, eliminated, destroyed. Therefore government agents have no need to respect us.

If that man&#039;s wife had tasered the officer in response to his aggressive attack on her husband, she would have gone to prison for years. The police would have swarmed down on her like killer bees, but there would have been no citizen power to check and balance their power. No uprising, no protection, no safe haven, no one to help her. Lawyers are officers of the court. The court is employed by the same government as the cops. For all intents and purposes the government has all the firepower in the nation, vested in the cops and the military. You may own a gun or a taser or pepper spray. But you can&#039;t, in any situation or context, use your weapons to defend yourself or a loved one against government abuse of power. If you do you will die. Period. They will hunt you and kill you without remorse. They will enjoy making an example of you. There will be no citizen militia to save you, no impartial court to help you, no place safe from their wrath.

Had she tasered the cop and gone to prison, she would have been abused, raped, and destroyed as a human being. And the cops who watch the prisons would have done nothing to protect her. They probably would have raped her themselves. We wonder why prison does not solve crime. Read about your prisons America. Our prisons are among the worst torture chambers in human history. They make criminals harder, not better. They produce monsters. They do not rehabilitate.

So what is a citizen to do? They can beat you at will. If you try to defend yourself it&#039;s &quot;resisting&quot; and they can kill you. They have all the weapons and the legal authority to use them. You have the pitiful weapons they allow you to have, and no right to use them. They have all the money they can steal through taxes. You can barely make your bills much less pay the attorneys who only seek to make more money. No matter what a lawyer tells you, they work for and must ultimately obey the courts. If they find an excuse to send you to prison, you will suffer in ways you cannot imagine. Beatings, rapes, disease, torture, even death. Those who are supposed to &quot;protect and serve&quot; will laugh while you are destroyed.

And it&#039;s not just the cops. Governors selling Senate seats. Senators selling America. Presidents who disregard the law and the Constitution, and I&#039;m talking about the Democrats to, not just Bush. Bailouts for filthy rich who donate to political campaigns while struggling citizens lose everything. The cops? They&#039;re just one branch of a much larger problem.

I love the Constitution and I love the America that our founders wanted us to have. But the America we live in is not that place. Not even close.

And I don&#039;t even begin to know how to fix things.

I can only hope that the cop in this video finds himself in a foreign country one day facing an officer who treats him the way he treated this man. That would be justice. That&#039;s a video I would pay to see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cops are bullies. The job attracts bullies. The screening process selects bullies. And the training encourages bullies. Every cop I&#8217;ve known or had any experience with has been nothing but a low IQ school yard bully. Without exception. Occasionally I will see a video that makes me think &#8220;there&#8217;s a decent cop with some intelligence.&#8221; But 90% of the time I just see another low brow, caveman bully.</p>
<p>The problem is that the American people are sheep. We curse and scream and cry and yell, but in the end we don&#8217;t do anything to actually make cops pay for their actions. For being bullies.</p>
<p>Our founders gave us the right to bear arms knowing that respect comes with an equilibrium of power. And that government would only respect the people if the people had power against the government. Our power has been suppressed, regulated, stripped, eliminated, destroyed. Therefore government agents have no need to respect us.</p>
<p>If that man&#8217;s wife had tasered the officer in response to his aggressive attack on her husband, she would have gone to prison for years. The police would have swarmed down on her like killer bees, but there would have been no citizen power to check and balance their power. No uprising, no protection, no safe haven, no one to help her. Lawyers are officers of the court. The court is employed by the same government as the cops. For all intents and purposes the government has all the firepower in the nation, vested in the cops and the military. You may own a gun or a taser or pepper spray. But you can&#8217;t, in any situation or context, use your weapons to defend yourself or a loved one against government abuse of power. If you do you will die. Period. They will hunt you and kill you without remorse. They will enjoy making an example of you. There will be no citizen militia to save you, no impartial court to help you, no place safe from their wrath.</p>
<p>Had she tasered the cop and gone to prison, she would have been abused, raped, and destroyed as a human being. And the cops who watch the prisons would have done nothing to protect her. They probably would have raped her themselves. We wonder why prison does not solve crime. Read about your prisons America. Our prisons are among the worst torture chambers in human history. They make criminals harder, not better. They produce monsters. They do not rehabilitate.</p>
<p>So what is a citizen to do? They can beat you at will. If you try to defend yourself it&#8217;s &#8220;resisting&#8221; and they can kill you. They have all the weapons and the legal authority to use them. You have the pitiful weapons they allow you to have, and no right to use them. They have all the money they can steal through taxes. You can barely make your bills much less pay the attorneys who only seek to make more money. No matter what a lawyer tells you, they work for and must ultimately obey the courts. If they find an excuse to send you to prison, you will suffer in ways you cannot imagine. Beatings, rapes, disease, torture, even death. Those who are supposed to &#8220;protect and serve&#8221; will laugh while you are destroyed.</p>
<p>And it&#8217;s not just the cops. Governors selling Senate seats. Senators selling America. Presidents who disregard the law and the Constitution, and I&#8217;m talking about the Democrats to, not just Bush. Bailouts for filthy rich who donate to political campaigns while struggling citizens lose everything. The cops? They&#8217;re just one branch of a much larger problem.</p>
<p>I love the Constitution and I love the America that our founders wanted us to have. But the America we live in is not that place. Not even close.</p>
<p>And I don&#8217;t even begin to know how to fix things.</p>
<p>I can only hope that the cop in this video finds himself in a foreign country one day facing an officer who treats him the way he treated this man. That would be justice. That&#8217;s a video I would pay to see.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Keohi</title>
		<link>http://theutubeblog.com/2007/11/22/utah-highway-patrol-taser-guy-for-speeding-violation/#comment-85558</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Keohi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 03:14:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The cop shouldn&#039;t have to play these games with knuckleheads that insist on testing their authority and challenging lawful orders. Challenging law and police conduct is what the courts are for. This motorist was the arrogant one. The cops don&#039;t have to submit to explaining themselves over and over again to convince uncooperative jerks to do simple things like signing a ticket. The problem is that there are too many people in this country who think that laws only apply to other people...but not them!

Just act like adults and do what they tell you to do. If you choose to play it tough, then don&#039;t cry about it when you get slammed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The cop shouldn&#8217;t have to play these games with knuckleheads that insist on testing their authority and challenging lawful orders. Challenging law and police conduct is what the courts are for. This motorist was the arrogant one. The cops don&#8217;t have to submit to explaining themselves over and over again to convince uncooperative jerks to do simple things like signing a ticket. The problem is that there are too many people in this country who think that laws only apply to other people&#8230;but not them!</p>
<p>Just act like adults and do what they tell you to do. If you choose to play it tough, then don&#8217;t cry about it when you get slammed.</p>
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		<title>By: mark</title>
		<link>http://theutubeblog.com/2007/11/22/utah-highway-patrol-taser-guy-for-speeding-violation/#comment-85209</link>
		<dc:creator>mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 23:46:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SOME OFFICER&#039;S TAKE IT TO FAR! SOME OFFICER LIKE IN UTAH AND OTHER SMALL STATE&#039;S DON&#039;T KNOW HOW LUCKY THEY ARE TO BE IN SUCH LOW CRIME STATE. IF THEY WOULD TAKE ACTION LIKE THEY DID IN ANOTHER STATE LIKE CAL OR NY OR CHI ,THEY WOULD BE LOOKING OVER THIER BACKS EVERY DAY. . ALOT OF JUDGES AND OFFICER ARE ON PROTECT WATCH DUE TO WHAT THEY DO ON THE JOB! ALOT OF CRAZY PEOPLE OUT THERE AND THEY CAN FIND ANYONE IF THEY WHAT! I AM GLAD I DONT HAVE THIER JOB!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SOME OFFICER&#8217;S TAKE IT TO FAR! SOME OFFICER LIKE IN UTAH AND OTHER SMALL STATE&#8217;S DON&#8217;T KNOW HOW LUCKY THEY ARE TO BE IN SUCH LOW CRIME STATE. IF THEY WOULD TAKE ACTION LIKE THEY DID IN ANOTHER STATE LIKE CAL OR NY OR CHI ,THEY WOULD BE LOOKING OVER THIER BACKS EVERY DAY. . ALOT OF JUDGES AND OFFICER ARE ON PROTECT WATCH DUE TO WHAT THEY DO ON THE JOB! ALOT OF CRAZY PEOPLE OUT THERE AND THEY CAN FIND ANYONE IF THEY WHAT! I AM GLAD I DONT HAVE THIER JOB!</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
		<link>http://theutubeblog.com/2007/11/22/utah-highway-patrol-taser-guy-for-speeding-violation/#comment-80546</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 22:49:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Police officers stand between us, the civilized public, and the criminals.  If you think this officer had no right, why don&#039;t you try to stand on that line, just for a day, and see what you think.  If you have never been in those shoes, if you have never been in harms way, as I expect most of the people who expressed their opinions here have not, then you have no real basis to judge.  Our Police Officers, Firemen, and Soldiers do the jobs everyday that most of us are too afraid to do, for very little pay.  Try to imagine a world without the safety they provide.  How about for once, we try to appreciate them and everything they do instead of undermine them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Police officers stand between us, the civilized public, and the criminals.  If you think this officer had no right, why don&#8217;t you try to stand on that line, just for a day, and see what you think.  If you have never been in those shoes, if you have never been in harms way, as I expect most of the people who expressed their opinions here have not, then you have no real basis to judge.  Our Police Officers, Firemen, and Soldiers do the jobs everyday that most of us are too afraid to do, for very little pay.  Try to imagine a world without the safety they provide.  How about for once, we try to appreciate them and everything they do instead of undermine them.</p>
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		<title>By: john</title>
		<link>http://theutubeblog.com/2007/11/22/utah-highway-patrol-taser-guy-for-speeding-violation/#comment-77846</link>
		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 05:17:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ITS FUNNY HOW PEOPLE FEEL THAT THEY CAN GET STOPPED AND TELL AN OFFICER HOW TO CONDUCT A TRAFFIC STOP. THE OFFICER EXPLAINED TO THE DRIVER HE WAS SPEEDING AND THEN TO SIGN THE TICKET, WHICH IS REQUIRED BY UTAH LAW. THEN HE REFUSED, WAS ASKED TO GET OUT AND TURN AROUND WHICH HE REFUSED. HIS FAULT. HE SHOULD HAVE OBEYED THE LAWFUL ORDER AND HE DID NOT, AND BECAUSE OF SO HE WAS TASED AND ARRESTED. NEXT TIME HE SHOULD DO EXACTLY AS ASKED BY AN OFFICER, NOT WHAT HE FELT IT SHOULD HAVE GONE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ITS FUNNY HOW PEOPLE FEEL THAT THEY CAN GET STOPPED AND TELL AN OFFICER HOW TO CONDUCT A TRAFFIC STOP. THE OFFICER EXPLAINED TO THE DRIVER HE WAS SPEEDING AND THEN TO SIGN THE TICKET, WHICH IS REQUIRED BY UTAH LAW. THEN HE REFUSED, WAS ASKED TO GET OUT AND TURN AROUND WHICH HE REFUSED. HIS FAULT. HE SHOULD HAVE OBEYED THE LAWFUL ORDER AND HE DID NOT, AND BECAUSE OF SO HE WAS TASED AND ARRESTED. NEXT TIME HE SHOULD DO EXACTLY AS ASKED BY AN OFFICER, NOT WHAT HE FELT IT SHOULD HAVE GONE.</p>
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		<title>By: jerome</title>
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		<dc:creator>jerome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 10:56:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The question that always comes to my mind when I see this video is, the officer tells the man to get out of the car and then turns his back on Mr. Massey and walks to his patrol car just barely glancing over his shoulder from time to time. If Mr. Massey had been a criminal the result would be a dead officer. He didnt make it clear at any time that he was arresting Mr. Massey. He just pulls his taser. Obviously from the point on from telling Mr. Massey to get out of the car the trooper loses control of the situation and suddenly finds the guy standing next to him and is surprised. The trooper can be lucky he had a sensible citizen in front of him and not a criminal. He clearly did things like they shouldnt have been done got in a uncontroled situation and reacted badly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The question that always comes to my mind when I see this video is, the officer tells the man to get out of the car and then turns his back on Mr. Massey and walks to his patrol car just barely glancing over his shoulder from time to time. If Mr. Massey had been a criminal the result would be a dead officer. He didnt make it clear at any time that he was arresting Mr. Massey. He just pulls his taser. Obviously from the point on from telling Mr. Massey to get out of the car the trooper loses control of the situation and suddenly finds the guy standing next to him and is surprised. The trooper can be lucky he had a sensible citizen in front of him and not a criminal. He clearly did things like they shouldnt have been done got in a uncontroled situation and reacted badly.</p>
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		<title>By: kanes</title>
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		<dc:creator>kanes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 02:10:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d like to taser that a-hole cop in the face....actually no, if he has a daughter I&#039;d like to taser HER in the face and make him watch!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to taser that a-hole cop in the face&#8230;.actually no, if he has a daughter I&#8217;d like to taser HER in the face and make him watch!</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremiah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremiah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 04:15:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow a cop on powertrip. let me guess he was a loser/nobody when he was in school? Now he is a patrolman, and he has a taser gun. This cop has a huge problem and he handled the situation the worst way possible, what if that had been a 357 pistol instead of a taser gun? I mean a cop would practicaly shoot someone for not signing a ticket? Too many cops who were nobodys in thier school days think they are something special just because they are a cop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow a cop on powertrip. let me guess he was a loser/nobody when he was in school? Now he is a patrolman, and he has a taser gun. This cop has a huge problem and he handled the situation the worst way possible, what if that had been a 357 pistol instead of a taser gun? I mean a cop would practicaly shoot someone for not signing a ticket? Too many cops who were nobodys in thier school days think they are something special just because they are a cop.</p>
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		<title>By: Ray Mazza</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ray Mazza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 12:35:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was a police officer for 28 years, this cop needs to be terminated immediately. If he tasered my son like that for no reason his ass would be grass along with his department.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was a police officer for 28 years, this cop needs to be terminated immediately. If he tasered my son like that for no reason his ass would be grass along with his department.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 01:53:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That kid didn&#039;t handle things very well, but he is just a kid. Now an accomplished officer would have been better at verbal de-escalation.  This cop really needs to get off his high horse and rethink his approach to the youth of America. Or one of these days he will escalate someone into more than just talking. I don’t know if it’s mandatory to arrest for non signature, but it seems like he(the kid) could have been handed the ticket and said goodbye to. The officer would have put a stop to everything at that point and he would have to show up for court or pay the fine and have his tantrum elsewhere. This would be much safer in my opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That kid didn&#8217;t handle things very well, but he is just a kid. Now an accomplished officer would have been better at verbal de-escalation.  This cop really needs to get off his high horse and rethink his approach to the youth of America. Or one of these days he will escalate someone into more than just talking. I don’t know if it’s mandatory to arrest for non signature, but it seems like he(the kid) could have been handed the ticket and said goodbye to. The officer would have put a stop to everything at that point and he would have to show up for court or pay the fine and have his tantrum elsewhere. This would be much safer in my opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: Wil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 20:15:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Charles Says:
November 24, 2007 at 4:47 am

To those bashing the cop, you need to watch the video again.

Instead of complying with the officer, the driver is reaching for something in his pocket. The officer faced a potentially life threatening situation and was more than justified in using the taser under the circumstances.

If you were the officer, perhaps you would have waited to see if the driver pulled out a box of mints or a deadly weapon - I sure wouldn’t, especially considering the driver’s combative and argumentative demeanor from first encounter.&quot;

You need to watch the video again, Charlie. The guy was obviously walking away to avoid being tased. Bet you&#039;ve never been in a position like him. I&#039;ve had weapons pointed at me, Self preservation overrides all other thoughts and in a position where the brain realizes attack is futile the body tries to flee. It&#039;s a scientifically proven thing called the &quot;fight or flight reflex&quot;. Look it up.
I have seen lots of people use the term idiot on here, you deserve that name more than the cop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Charles Says:<br />
November 24, 2007 at 4:47 am</p>
<p>To those bashing the cop, you need to watch the video again.</p>
<p>Instead of complying with the officer, the driver is reaching for something in his pocket. The officer faced a potentially life threatening situation and was more than justified in using the taser under the circumstances.</p>
<p>If you were the officer, perhaps you would have waited to see if the driver pulled out a box of mints or a deadly weapon &#8211; I sure wouldn’t, especially considering the driver’s combative and argumentative demeanor from first encounter.&#8221;</p>
<p>You need to watch the video again, Charlie. The guy was obviously walking away to avoid being tased. Bet you&#8217;ve never been in a position like him. I&#8217;ve had weapons pointed at me, Self preservation overrides all other thoughts and in a position where the brain realizes attack is futile the body tries to flee. It&#8217;s a scientifically proven thing called the &#8220;fight or flight reflex&#8221;. Look it up.<br />
I have seen lots of people use the term idiot on here, you deserve that name more than the cop.</p>
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		<title>By: Wil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 19:56:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I can&#039;t believe is that the officer thought he could give a skewed telling of events when he knew a camera was watching him. He stated, both to the wife and to the other officer, that he drew his taser cause the guy was leaving. The officer pulled the taser before the guy even started moving away. It was in response to seeing the taser that the guy tried to leave. If an officer of the law can not accurately recall the order of events then he is a failure as a law enforcement official.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I can&#8217;t believe is that the officer thought he could give a skewed telling of events when he knew a camera was watching him. He stated, both to the wife and to the other officer, that he drew his taser cause the guy was leaving. The officer pulled the taser before the guy even started moving away. It was in response to seeing the taser that the guy tried to leave. If an officer of the law can not accurately recall the order of events then he is a failure as a law enforcement official.</p>
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		<title>By: logan</title>
		<link>http://theutubeblog.com/2007/11/22/utah-highway-patrol-taser-guy-for-speeding-violation/#comment-66833</link>
		<dc:creator>logan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 00:55:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>UHP just announced that trooper Gardner&#039;s action was justified.

http://highwaypatrol.utah.gov/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>UHP just announced that trooper Gardner&#8217;s action was justified.</p>
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		<title>By: logan</title>
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		<dc:creator>logan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2007 17:05:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s be clear about the law.

Salt Lake Tribune
...Under Utah law, when a motorist refuses to sign a ticket, a police officer can do things the easy way, or the hard way. He can make an arrest and jail the offender, or he can simply write &quot;refused to sign&quot; on the dotted line. Either way, the motorist has to pay the fine or show up in court to fight the ticket. Either way, justice will be served. 
The law needs to be changed to prevent these needless confrontations. Nobody should be taken into custody for a traffic violation. It&#039;s a waste of a trooper&#039;s time, and the taxpayers&#039; money. Where possible, police should be made to do things the easy way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s be clear about the law.</p>
<p>Salt Lake Tribune<br />
&#8230;Under Utah law, when a motorist refuses to sign a ticket, a police officer can do things the easy way, or the hard way. He can make an arrest and jail the offender, or he can simply write &#8220;refused to sign&#8221; on the dotted line. Either way, the motorist has to pay the fine or show up in court to fight the ticket. Either way, justice will be served.<br />
The law needs to be changed to prevent these needless confrontations. Nobody should be taken into custody for a traffic violation. It&#8217;s a waste of a trooper&#8217;s time, and the taxpayers&#8217; money. Where possible, police should be made to do things the easy way.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2007 16:51:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The real irony in this situation is that they deserve each other.  Frankly, Massey seems to have forgotten that along with his other rights, he also has the &#039;right&#039; to be arrested.  If you read the ticket, it clearly states that  the signature is not an admission of guilt, only an acknowledgment that you have received the ticket.  If you do not sign the ticket the officer has only two choices.  He can either tear up the ticket and send you on your way, or arrest you.  99.99999% of the people just sign the damned thing and get on with their life.  However, I have often contemplated not signing myself, simply as an act of passive resistance to a system that has become nothing more than a glorified tax collection effort.

Which brings us to Gardner.  Did you notice that he did not accurately relate the incident to the second officer?  After only about three minutes he had already began to twist the events in his own mind.  Thank goodness for video!  By the time this got to court I wonder if he would have tased because he saw a weapon coming from the pocket.  He did a lousy job as he completely neglected to explain to Massey what his rights were, how the system works, and what would be likely alternatives given various courses of action.  He turned the most simple, benign infraction of the law into a life threatening event, and one that may ultimately cost him his job and the tax payers of Utah a huge sum in attorney fees and damages.

We citizens of Utah, I&#039;m afraid,  will spend more on this case in attorney fees, court time, and damages than the entire Highway Patrol staff of the state of Utah earns in a year.

My heart goes out to these guys when I see one of them on a rainy day helping someone on the roadside with a flat tire, or pulling someone over that was speeding past traffic at 15mph over the prevailing rate.  But I sure get sick and tired of the egos and the idiots that pull people over in rush hour, delay traffic for miles, and seem to operate at the speed of fog as they clear a routine fender bender from a lane of traffic.  If it were up to me I would fire half of them and triple the pay of the ones I kept.  Guess which list Gardner would be on!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The real irony in this situation is that they deserve each other.  Frankly, Massey seems to have forgotten that along with his other rights, he also has the &#8216;right&#8217; to be arrested.  If you read the ticket, it clearly states that  the signature is not an admission of guilt, only an acknowledgment that you have received the ticket.  If you do not sign the ticket the officer has only two choices.  He can either tear up the ticket and send you on your way, or arrest you.  99.99999% of the people just sign the damned thing and get on with their life.  However, I have often contemplated not signing myself, simply as an act of passive resistance to a system that has become nothing more than a glorified tax collection effort.</p>
<p>Which brings us to Gardner.  Did you notice that he did not accurately relate the incident to the second officer?  After only about three minutes he had already began to twist the events in his own mind.  Thank goodness for video!  By the time this got to court I wonder if he would have tased because he saw a weapon coming from the pocket.  He did a lousy job as he completely neglected to explain to Massey what his rights were, how the system works, and what would be likely alternatives given various courses of action.  He turned the most simple, benign infraction of the law into a life threatening event, and one that may ultimately cost him his job and the tax payers of Utah a huge sum in attorney fees and damages.</p>
<p>We citizens of Utah, I&#8217;m afraid,  will spend more on this case in attorney fees, court time, and damages than the entire Highway Patrol staff of the state of Utah earns in a year.</p>
<p>My heart goes out to these guys when I see one of them on a rainy day helping someone on the roadside with a flat tire, or pulling someone over that was speeding past traffic at 15mph over the prevailing rate.  But I sure get sick and tired of the egos and the idiots that pull people over in rush hour, delay traffic for miles, and seem to operate at the speed of fog as they clear a routine fender bender from a lane of traffic.  If it were up to me I would fire half of them and triple the pay of the ones I kept.  Guess which list Gardner would be on!</p>
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		<title>By: Everyone's wrong!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Everyone's wrong!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2007 16:48:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone had a part in this. The company or state that setup the temp work zone needs training on better marking of the work zone. Officer should have had way more &quot;people skills&quot;, should have understood he was patrolling at temp speed zone.  (Perhaps he was doing it all day and was &quot;sick of it&quot;) An officer by job description and public safety has to &quot;put up with&quot; verbal &quot;BS&quot; from everyone and anyone, he had no clue how to inform the person he pulled over as to what was going on. To me the officer was only looking to give the driver a ticket, not inform the driver of what was wrong, or get the drivers side of the story. Yes he did tell the driver he was speeding but as far as what we could hear on the tape he didn&#039;t want to hear the drives side of anything. To those that watch the tape close we see an orange traffic warning sign, then the patrol car seems to pull out of the traffic lane next to the temporary speed sign. Put yourself in the drives seat of the person pulled over, in front of you a patrol car is reducing speed and judging from the tape the officer would have had his brakes on. While driving down the road if I see this the last thing I would be looking for would be a speed sign. I would be looking at traffic and attempting to figure out if the officer needed to be pulling back into traffic to turn around or who knows what. (We can only assume the only 40 MPH sign was the one we see the patrol car block, we assume this because we see the orange warning sign then the temporary speed sign) I agree with the driver that I would be very upset I&#039;m to just accept this ticket because the officer wants to give it to me without any conversation as to why. (Other than because the law says you must sign or I can arrest you, which by the way I didn&#039;t hear him say that either) Listen close, the driver demands to see the speed sign the officer is talking about. The officer states he needs to sign the ticket first, the driver rudely but understandably says no. The officer then seems to put the pen away, states the word, &quot;OK&quot;. To me if I&#039;m the driver I going to be thinking, &quot;finally this officer is willing to help me understand what is going on!!&quot; You can CLEARLY see this was his mind set as he is pointing and talking about the road only to see some poorly trained officer point a taser at him. Now is when the driver should have had the common sense to forget about the ticket and start thinking about his life!!!! If he has not had any luck attempting to reason with this officer to this point why would he think he could now? I don&#039;t have a clue what I would do if this would have happened to me. . . (Putting my hand in a pocket would not have been it though.) The officer again used poor judgment by not controlling the driver even after he had a weapon out. He didn&#039;t once state he would use it. (I&#039;ll use the common sense card again for the drivers error) The officer told his &quot;backup&quot; he told the driver he would be tasered if he didn&#039;t stop, but he didn&#039;t say that. 

I call out to those that will be dealing with this issue and this officer to pay attention to the this tape, it&#039;s value for what happened here and what will happen the next time. I think this is good proof we need video tape everywhere to protect both the public and the officers we all need to trust. I ask all of us to calm down, try not to argue, be polite. If you feel your not getting a &quot;fair deal&quot; ask for the officers supervisor, ask if you can call 911 to prove they know you have been stooped and by who, sign the ticket and write your side of the story or any issues on it. Please don&#039;t waste everyone&#039;s time and energy if you truly know you did whatever OWN UP TO IT! I feel for this driver and his family but we also can&#039;t know what was the very first thing that made the officer decide to stop the car. It couldn&#039;t have been just the moment that the patrol car was by the 40 MPH sign we see on the tape. (Or at least I hope not as the car only traveled a few hundred feet after the sign and it only took a few feet to stop after the brake lights came on, so he was not going very fast at that point)

WE HAVE FAR MORE &quot;GOOD&quot; COPS THAN &quot;BAD&quot; ONES!! I&#039;m sure this one has had better days that this. . . .I hope he never has one like this again. . .The driver even told you to calm down after you tasered him, I think that suggests you might want to rethink things and talk more than shoot, what was your rush not to talk before you &quot;tricked him&quot; to get out of the car???? When you tricked him out of the car and then pulled your weapon you put both of you into a no win event over speeding. . .Speeding????

Folks don&#039;t let traffic tickets give law enforcement a bad name, it is such a small part of what law enforcement is about. . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone had a part in this. The company or state that setup the temp work zone needs training on better marking of the work zone. Officer should have had way more &#8220;people skills&#8221;, should have understood he was patrolling at temp speed zone.  (Perhaps he was doing it all day and was &#8220;sick of it&#8221;) An officer by job description and public safety has to &#8220;put up with&#8221; verbal &#8220;BS&#8221; from everyone and anyone, he had no clue how to inform the person he pulled over as to what was going on. To me the officer was only looking to give the driver a ticket, not inform the driver of what was wrong, or get the drivers side of the story. Yes he did tell the driver he was speeding but as far as what we could hear on the tape he didn&#8217;t want to hear the drives side of anything. To those that watch the tape close we see an orange traffic warning sign, then the patrol car seems to pull out of the traffic lane next to the temporary speed sign. Put yourself in the drives seat of the person pulled over, in front of you a patrol car is reducing speed and judging from the tape the officer would have had his brakes on. While driving down the road if I see this the last thing I would be looking for would be a speed sign. I would be looking at traffic and attempting to figure out if the officer needed to be pulling back into traffic to turn around or who knows what. (We can only assume the only 40 MPH sign was the one we see the patrol car block, we assume this because we see the orange warning sign then the temporary speed sign) I agree with the driver that I would be very upset I&#8217;m to just accept this ticket because the officer wants to give it to me without any conversation as to why. (Other than because the law says you must sign or I can arrest you, which by the way I didn&#8217;t hear him say that either) Listen close, the driver demands to see the speed sign the officer is talking about. The officer states he needs to sign the ticket first, the driver rudely but understandably says no. The officer then seems to put the pen away, states the word, &#8220;OK&#8221;. To me if I&#8217;m the driver I going to be thinking, &#8220;finally this officer is willing to help me understand what is going on!!&#8221; You can CLEARLY see this was his mind set as he is pointing and talking about the road only to see some poorly trained officer point a taser at him. Now is when the driver should have had the common sense to forget about the ticket and start thinking about his life!!!! If he has not had any luck attempting to reason with this officer to this point why would he think he could now? I don&#8217;t have a clue what I would do if this would have happened to me. . . (Putting my hand in a pocket would not have been it though.) The officer again used poor judgment by not controlling the driver even after he had a weapon out. He didn&#8217;t once state he would use it. (I&#8217;ll use the common sense card again for the drivers error) The officer told his &#8220;backup&#8221; he told the driver he would be tasered if he didn&#8217;t stop, but he didn&#8217;t say that. </p>
<p>I call out to those that will be dealing with this issue and this officer to pay attention to the this tape, it&#8217;s value for what happened here and what will happen the next time. I think this is good proof we need video tape everywhere to protect both the public and the officers we all need to trust. I ask all of us to calm down, try not to argue, be polite. If you feel your not getting a &#8220;fair deal&#8221; ask for the officers supervisor, ask if you can call 911 to prove they know you have been stooped and by who, sign the ticket and write your side of the story or any issues on it. Please don&#8217;t waste everyone&#8217;s time and energy if you truly know you did whatever OWN UP TO IT! I feel for this driver and his family but we also can&#8217;t know what was the very first thing that made the officer decide to stop the car. It couldn&#8217;t have been just the moment that the patrol car was by the 40 MPH sign we see on the tape. (Or at least I hope not as the car only traveled a few hundred feet after the sign and it only took a few feet to stop after the brake lights came on, so he was not going very fast at that point)</p>
<p>WE HAVE FAR MORE &#8220;GOOD&#8221; COPS THAN &#8220;BAD&#8221; ONES!! I&#8217;m sure this one has had better days that this. . . .I hope he never has one like this again. . .The driver even told you to calm down after you tasered him, I think that suggests you might want to rethink things and talk more than shoot, what was your rush not to talk before you &#8220;tricked him&#8221; to get out of the car???? When you tricked him out of the car and then pulled your weapon you put both of you into a no win event over speeding. . .Speeding????</p>
<p>Folks don&#8217;t let traffic tickets give law enforcement a bad name, it is such a small part of what law enforcement is about. . .</p>
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		<title>By: 'Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>'Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2007 01:55:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If this cop followed the law the law should be changed. If he were a little more patient the guy would not have been tazered. There needs to be a review of the this  tape for sure!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If this cop followed the law the law should be changed. If he were a little more patient the guy would not have been tazered. There needs to be a review of the this  tape for sure!</p>
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		<title>By: logan</title>
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		<dc:creator>logan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 22:17:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Officer got spine fractures when tased during a taser demonstration. Taser is a dangerous weapon.

 http://www.acep.org/pressroom.aspx?id=29862</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Officer got spine fractures when tased during a taser demonstration. Taser is a dangerous weapon.</p>
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